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Friday, May 18th 2018, 3:34am

Players refuse to adapt so they'd rather vote to remove the card. Keep the tears coming, this is awesome. I enjoy queing up for pvp....casual ofcourse because who takes this game serious anyways? But while i am in que I look forward to reading all the crying threads/comments on the forums :love: my oh my the evolution of our species has made some just a whiney buncha nubs.
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Friday, May 18th 2018, 3:56am

By players you mean whales, nobody else is really saying much. I never thought I'd construct this sentence, but I respect Peaslee. He still cries about 11th, of course, nobody likes being hit with 11th and he loves to cry. At least he's crying about it whilst not being a hypocrite and using the card whilst crying about it. If there is going to be a vote, can we vote on moving all these dimwits to a special server where they can have special things. An extra few spaces for machine guns in front of their character maybe. A big bouncy castle in the middle if it's a friendly fight between guild bro's.



Are they dead or just bored? Either way, say no to 11th and save the whales game.

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"lmao, you might be right, that we started it. But we would still prefer to play other decks again too, the issue is just that we will get murdered by all the towahli bombs if we try it. We won pretty much everything before, but now its just decided by draws, i think after all Alenka and me are getting screwed the most by the current Meta and would benefit by a removal/nerf the most imo." ~ Kaynie

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Friday, May 18th 2018, 5:09am

By players you mean whales, nobody else is really saying much. I never thought I'd construct this sentence, but I respect Peaslee. He still cries about 11th, of course, nobody likes being hit with 11th and he loves to cry. At least he's crying about it whilst not being a hypocrite and using the card whilst crying about it. If there is going to be a vote, can we vote on moving all these dimwits to a special server where they can have special things. An extra few spaces for machine guns in front of their character maybe. A big bouncy castle in the middle if it's a friendly fight between guild bro's.



Are they dead or just bored? Either way, say no to 11th and save the whales game.


I don't; The fact that he bought/used the card at all after throwing so many tantrums about it is so ridiculous it's not even funny.
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Friday, May 18th 2018, 8:41am

Hello Heroes. The requested community poll for this discussion has been created here.

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Friday, May 18th 2018, 10:07am

Even if the post is unoffical, to give demadrend a good indicator what solution the community would prefer, the choices should be realistic possibilities only.

From the Pan Post:

Quoted from "Demadrend"

Q. Why not just Nerf the card?
A. Again, for reasons of technical implementation, speed to process the change, agreement with the Developer regarding uniformity of Game Content between rival versions of the game, this removal was simply the easiest and quickest choice.


A nerf won't happen, choices should only be removal and nothing.
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Friday, May 18th 2018, 10:23am

A nerf was suggested by several people just like the suggestion that a poll would be a good indicator for Demadrend so it is important to include these opinions. If you prefer, you can consider the nerf votes as being without an extreme opinion (like the SANS AVIS option on the FR vote you linked).

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Friday, May 18th 2018, 10:50am

A nerf was suggested by several people just like the suggestion that a poll would be a good indicator for Demadrend so it is important to include these opinions. If you prefer, you can consider the nerf votes as being without an extreme opinion (like the SANS AVIS option on the FR vote you linked).


Nerf it so ginjy/kimono ginjy don't work while you're at it too

Replace that "nothing" bit with: Grow up

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Friday, May 18th 2018, 12:38pm

I agreed at all. Kill Towahli..

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Saturday, May 19th 2018, 11:23am

People say 11th hour helps to close the gap between f2p/low vips and whales, but this is nonsense. Whales still have superior 11th hour decks (Riverseer, Rhiala, Awakened Modesty ect. to support it). I am a whale and I still don't really lose to low VIPs even if they have towahli. What Towahli does is close the gap between dumb players and not so dumb players. And most dumb players are unfortunately whales. What closes the gap between whales and small cashers is Demadrend. Most don't seem to see it, but lately most good cards have been small recharges, the free events have been super generous (black opals, gl soul thirst for example) and V&V packs for rubies! Just look at how common Tarots had been after all the free tarot packs and after people opened the packs and sold their spare ones. Tons of f2p and low vips have sun, wheel, judgement ect. Same happens/will happen to the virtues. Plenty of good virtues are sold already. And not only virtues, since the packs are openable with rubies, alot of whales sell their spare good cards (seen multiple lysandras, alexis ect in Auction House). There are so many low vips these days that have good cards and get confused with whales. Can you guess what VIP Level Janosik and Harnas are for example? I watched them play and ppl called them whales, yet one is vip 0 and the other got recently to 5. LOLuDied aka Hahausucknoob has like all the key cards as a vip4. Imagine you wouldn't have bought the scorch or used ur opal on Kaelithus. I don't think that low vips need towahli to compete, towahli just helps those players, that just summon everything thats ready and use nukes on everything just because they are ready >_>

I think the game is on a good way to even the fields between whales and smaller vips, V&V for rubies is amazing, the bonanzas have improved a lot (gingy, kimono), the recharge cycle has changed from big - small - big - small and so on to small - small - big - small - small - big and most of the good cards are acutally small recharges these days. Clearly free 2 play is still quite screwed, but if you werent willing to become a vip 5 (thats what? 40$?), after so many years then you probably don't care anyways
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Saturday, May 19th 2018, 6:55pm

It gives lower level players (those who don't recharge every week/month) a chance to win a match against some that do, but no they wouldn't easily win a big spender whale. This issue is primarily about whale on whale 11th abuse, boredom and your personal agenda which is clear to me given your previous quote which is now my signature. You speak like the cards everyone gets to narrow the gap aren't available to you, and if they're good cards like you claim then you are more likely to instantly upgrade them to Godlike. So many low VIP's that get confused with whales? by who? you? Anyway, carry on crying about 1 card you don't like anymore and I'll carry on calling BS. Let's have another pointless poll, if only to demonstrate how easy is it to make your own poll.

Do you think the PVP gap is closing because of the cards that free/low VIP players are getting?

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"lmao, you might be right, that we started it. But we would still prefer to play other decks again too, the issue is just that we will get murdered by all the towahli bombs if we try it. We won pretty much everything before, but now its just decided by draws, i think after all Alenka and me are getting screwed the most by the current Meta and would benefit by a removal/nerf the most imo." ~ Kaynie

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Saturday, May 19th 2018, 7:17pm

I really not understand after all the explanation about that broken card, all the broken combos all the negative stuff around that stupid card, and you still defend that card? ?(?(?(?( did you think you have a chance against a whale with some 11th meta deck? so imagine everyone playing that decks. its just like everyone playing qilins, but faster, brutal and stupid.... just that. And whales still have advantage because of some major recharge cards that make the 11th still more stupid and broken. 11th its a totally anti strategy card. its a card for people without ideas to make strategy decks, that rely in that broken combos to get wins. just that.


ps. its a so bad card that does not even have an original portrait, she uses sky assassin pic.


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Saturday, May 19th 2018, 7:20pm

I avoid whales, I don't care about whales, whales are ruining this game. So yes, I defend the card for those that bought it and don't want to lose it because the whales are bored of it. If you had read my posts you would know that already.

If they stopped selling the expensive whale cards that would maybe close the gap some, then maybe those free/low VIP players who don't wish to spend (because it's absolutely pointless to at this moment in time) would start recharging more often and you whales would still have all your previous advantages, but no let's all just pretend that whales (sorry, top players) are victims. The decent cards in Booster Bonanza (for Rubies) may be easily obtainable to whales but even those are hard to gain for most players (though most players rarely factor into whale thinking because it's mainly thinking about what would work for whales and certainly not for everyone). Most whales couldn't care less about the free players or low VIP's given the amount of points they take from them on their daily camping trips. But forget all that, carry on crying about 1 small recharge card because it hurts your feelings. Everyone understands *group hug* ;) Nobody is confused that Übermensch are so scared of a little 'rechard' to break their ridiculous streaks every now and then.

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"lmao, you might be right, that we started it. But we would still prefer to play other decks again too, the issue is just that we will get murdered by all the towahli bombs if we try it. We won pretty much everything before, but now its just decided by draws, i think after all Alenka and me are getting screwed the most by the current Meta and would benefit by a removal/nerf the most imo." ~ Kaynie

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "KingBast" (May 20th 2018, 1:25am) with the following reason: Added a picture of a whale that looks kinda dumb. You know a dumb whale, not a smart one like a certain special someone.

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Monday, May 21st 2018, 9:05pm

What I'm wondering is how many people voted more than once. The gm should check and see. All u have to do is sigh up with a different email ever time and keep voting. I'm pretty sure there r a lot of them 11 hour lovers that have voted many times. :|:thumbdown::sleeping:

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Tuesday, May 22nd 2018, 2:15am

im even more suprized ppl think anytype of vote matters makes me lmao ppl wasting time repeating the same things over and over and over its almost like they think ppl actually listen to them especially if not the first time :thumbsup:

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Tuesday, May 22nd 2018, 1:09pm

Should just remove Forums all together. Would save gamigo a lot of headaches because the team + the players who dont cry and bitch about everything and anything wouldnt have to see any of this.

Mentioned on discord.....think of diablo 2. It had no forums.....there was broken heroes like Hammerdin, but it wasnt unkillable. It was great. No forums for sissy men to cry on ;D Everything was beautiful.

See look at that! i got my point across under 50 words? Didnt need to write a whole page of spammy BS like some of these nabs do. Keep up the crying though. Its making me lulz. Might even post these on Kals facebook.

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Friday, June 1st 2018, 8:25pm

Remove that card once and for all, even dark champion its totally blocked with that card. Its anti game card... worse than pans, modestys and what you think its broken in this game, was the worse card i ever seen in my life in a strategy game... X(


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Friday, June 1st 2018, 8:59pm

Agree its super broken. I just spam 11th judgement deck and lock you easy. Sure u can build a anti deck, sounds good but doesnt work. i can just drop a mod to counter that.

Such a boring meta. If they dont understand how broken the card is then they obviously dont know how much impact it makes on their game.

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Friday, June 1st 2018, 10:56pm

remove 11th

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Sunday, June 3rd 2018, 1:16am

please remove

removed 11th hour in the game

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Monday, June 4th 2018, 5:04pm

Looking back, I don't think you fully understood that Pan quote Kaynie. The bit which states "this removal was simply the easiest and quickest choice" infers that 'this' is with specific regard to that particular card which hadn't been sold twice. Or is it now the case that because of that quote no cards will ever be Nerfed again? Sounds legit, as ever. Makes sense that you didn't quote the paragraph above that one with your biased exclamation:-

Q. Will other cards / Saddles / Skills be banned?
A. It's too early to consider it now, it's not something I want to do often....it really should only be the Nuclear option as Trump would say. There are no current plans to remove any other card. However, I would like to consider further changes to improve the game and this may result in the Nerf to Stats or Abilities of future or current cards.

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