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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 12:01pm

Fairie crit/block

I have a question. When I play fairie I get only rep for celestial, so I have a question. What about blocks/critics. When I have higher celestial rep I have higher chance to crit/blocks? And what about elf reputation? When I have high elf reputation I get higher chance crit/block for my fairie or not?

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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 1:13pm

It's either calculated on Celestial alone or average of Celestial and Elf (ie half Celestial + Half Elf). Either way, it's the same rate as everything else. It's certainly not unbalanced.

Also, when I use Faeries, it gives both Celestial and Elf rep, half for each.

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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 1:57pm

Yes like mythremi said , since it is 2 kind of races it has the rep of 2 races which gives it a better chance of crit/block so if both reps are 50 its a bigger chance to block/crit then only 1 race

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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 2:00pm

Yes like mythremi said , since it is 2 kind of races it has the rep of 2 races which gives it a better chance of crit/block so if both reps are 50 its a bigger chance to block/crit then only 1 race


lol thats the opposite of what mythremi said... but I think your theory is right, the crit/block rate of faeries seems a lot higher then usual.
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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 2:10pm

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lol thats the opposite of what mythremi said...
Exactly. Someone should really start to re-learn reading...
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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 2:23pm

Coffee if you read his comment he explains about both races in which he got a point
2th of all i explain why the crit blok ratio is higher so again a prove you should learn reading and not me

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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 2:46pm

2th


you mean 2nd?
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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 2:51pm

Yes , just a little misstake doesn't take away the worth and i think everyone understands what i meant

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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 3:35pm

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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 3:47pm

Lol that wasn't a rude comment from me or a accusing comment
Was just a yes you are correct but the misstake isn't a difference which makes the sentence have a different meaning

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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 4:28pm

Yes like mythremi said , since it is 2 kind of races it has the rep of 2 races which gives it a better chance of crit/block so if both reps are 50 its a bigger chance to block/crit then only 1 race


Of course, we're never going to settle this issue because we don't have access to the game's actual code, but I haven't observed an increased crit/block rate. Not for any of the Hybrid races. I was testing it a while back by running Map a whole bunch of times (where obviously, the enemy's rates are zero for both), and here's what I recorded:

In 20 runs for each deck:
(My Celestial rep is 41 and Elf rep is 31, so I'm expecting Faeries to have a lower crit rate than angels, if my theory is correct, since the Faeries would be using an average rep of 36)
Both decks contain the same amount of creatures.

Faerie deck - 52 crits, 37 blocks

Angel deck - 58 crits, 53 blocks


Angels made more blocks because they don't fly, so they were attacked more.

So yeah, from these observations, it doesn't look like Hybrids really do have higher crit rates, but again, we'll never know for sure.
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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 4:33pm

Thats possible and if those are the testresults yes it becomes even harder to say how it exactly works

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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 4:37pm

Well faeries fly and get to the boss faster, also they probably have higher average damage so they finish games faster with less hits. The numbers itself don't mean much. We need a crit RATE which is not based ont the number of games but the number of hits.

Also, rep levels are not linear with total rep gained so an average of xp earned for 31 and 41 levels should be above 36. That seems to be logical instead of taking the levels.

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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 5:39pm

I play Priest though, so my Faerie deck is just as slow as any other deck :P I agree this is a very arbitrary means of measuring them though, and it's certainly not actual rate. Like I said, we'll never know that.

Yes, rep levels aren't linear, but the crit rates are (+0.4% per level).

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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 7:51pm

Faerie deck - 52 crits, 37 blocks

Angel deck - 58 crits, 53 blocks

you know. When doing stats this means nothing

You need crits out of total hits and blocks out of total damage taken

Cause fairys kill quick could be 52/ 70 and angels 58/120. Which would mean fae better. We have no idea here


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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 8:54pm

Faerie deck - 52 crits, 37 blocks

Angel deck - 58 crits, 53 blocks

you know. When doing stats this means nothing

You need crits out of total hits and blocks out of total damage taken

Cause fairys kill quick could be 52/ 70 and angels 58/120. Which would mean fae better. We have no idea here

See the post literally just above this, where I acknowledge that it's a very arbitrary means of determining rates.

But, since you added in a logical flaw, I'll point it out for you: If Faeries had 70 blocks, and Angels had 120, and they were each hit the same number of times, Angels are clearly better, not fae.
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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 9:16pm

It will remain a mystery and will be hard to know how it works since there are no percentages so well its a discutable point
However it sounds quite normal that 2 races would have more crits but off course it doesn't have to be that way

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Sunday, May 15th 2016, 11:06pm

Im pretty sure fairys dont crit more then others i have played fairys from the start, and dont see any difference with my normal crit rate. I have elf rep 50 and celestial rep 40 at the moment.

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Monday, May 16th 2016, 12:15am

I have been known to crit alot with my cards, i dont have any rep at 50, mainly because im tower lazy, and prefer legend stones,

from my experience cards i use more seem to block and crit more then cards i just add to deck even if they do have a higher reputation

-i dont know for sure how things are calculated, but i rarely switch out cards unless i am sure the card will stay, because i dont want to risk losing my crits and blocks

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